Explaining Justin and Hailey Bieber's Relationship Dynamic: How The Past Has Influenced Their Future
After talking about it for over four months, the Jailey dynamic post is finally here!
Justin and Hailey Bieber met back in 2009. With Hailey’s family being in the industry, she was often hanging out with celebrities and was part of the inside industry circle starting at a very early age. Jailey has been documented on this blog since 2014, which was the year that Justin and Hailey got very close. Hailey was hanging around in 2013 too, but she and Justin weren’t that close. In 2015, they started becoming best friends who would hook up from time to time. In 2016, they broke off their unofficial fling because Justin was going on the Purpose tour. We told you in 2016 that once this amateur sh-t is over, Justin is going to do everything in his power to prove how much Hailey means to him and it will be public. In 2018, they finally reunited officially after being spotted with mutuals, and they got engaged. They also got married in a courthouse in September 2018 and held their wedding in October 2019.
And that is your brief summary. For everything I mentioned above, I have an in depth post explaining every little thing.
Before we start this post, all I wanna say is goals:
Just kidding, but yeah if my own topics claim me publicly, it should let you know that I know what I’m talking about. I just wonder what posts they’ve read and I hope it wasn’t a post where I dragged a little extra….. LMAO either way let’s get into it.
I love talking about Jailey because it’s a relationship that I literally know everything about to the detail. Also, it’s a topic that I get proven right on the daily so that’s nice. I’m actually working on an entire credibility post about Jailey so expect that soon.
After reading this post, you’re going to understand a lot more about both of them as individual people and how they are as a couple. This post won’t talk about the love triangle that we’ve often focused on when it came to them, but instead their relationship dynamic only. Justin and Hailey are going to read this and be like “how are they living in my mind?” Good question.
I’m going to break up their dynamic in two sections: before marriage and after marriage. In order to understand their dynamic in their marriage perfectly, I’m going to have to discuss their history briefly and what happened before their marriage. If you’re only interested in the “after marriage” dynamic, scroll down. I don’t wanna hear complaining, y’all been acting up a lot lately.
BEFORE MARRIAGE
When Justin and his ex broke up, he did a 180 in everything. Because he was heartbroken and messed with emotionally, he lost himself in every aspect that you could think of. I won’t get into the details because I already did that in the Justin As A Person part 2 post. Justin being depressed and in constant pain is important in the foundation of Jailey’s relationship.
When Hailey was in the picture, she wanted to help Justin. She has always been a huge fan of him and she saw him the way Beliebers saw him—misunderstood, depressed, and just needs a hug. You know how when you’re a fan of a celebrity, all you want to do is genuinely help him? Yeah, that’s the case here.
Justin and Hailey in 2009
She didn’t want anything from him which was very different to him because there came a point where Justin surrounded himself with people who HE KNEW would use him because he didn’t want any surprises. So he purposely hung out with Lil Twist, his father, and other blood sucking leeches who would keep him drugged up so they can abuse his privileges. Why? It was better than trusting someone only to be let down again. At this point in time, it wasn’t only Justin’s ex who was the source of his pain. Yeah she was the core center of it, but his betrayal from his parents and the parent contract with LA Reid played a huge part.
When you put Hailey into the mix, Justin saw her as this kind of angel with a halo. It was like “oh my god, someone who wants to listen?” Mind you, Hailey wasn’t interested in becoming the #1 best selling star of her generation because she’s a MODEL. His friendship with Hailey was barely publicized in 2014 to the point where I didn’t even focus on it so much. Also, “model and musician fame” is VERY different. For example, if you have a model in a PR with a musician, the rules are gonna be very different in comparison to a PR with two musicians.
So at the end of 2014, Justin is opening up to Hailey about everything. He’s telling her what happened between him and that girl, everything that happened with him in the industry, his past friends, his parents—everything. Hailey was a shoulder for him to cry on. Plus, he was highly hated on so Justin was shocked that she even gave a sh-t about listening to his problems rather than taking his credit card and buying expensive gifts like the other girls he surrounded himself with. Since they weren’t an official relationship, there wasn’t this need for dependence… yet.
Anyone who talks to Justin and gets his side of the story suddenly starts hating his ex because she told one story to the media, but a completely different one actually took place. This is what happened with Hailey. Hailey being younger than Justin and all his peers, that age came with some sort of innocence. So she used to look at him like this older cool dude and his ex as this pretty Disney chic. This is why she was supportive of Justin and his past relationship. She was a young FAN and her age plays a big role in this.
At the beginning of their fling, Hailey was like the cool innocent freshman while Justin was the bad boy senior jock. She was literally y/n.
(for my older-not-on-stan-twitter readers, y/n stands for ‘your name’ and it’s when you read a fanfiction that’s written as if you’re the main character lmaooooo)
December 1, 2014
Here’s Justin, Hailey, and John (CEO of Shots) having lunch together. 2/3 of that group followed us on twitter for a short period of time (come on Justin, join the A-team).
Update—editing Angela here: wow… so here I am editing this post the night before it goes up and it’s just so funny to me that between the time I initially wrote this post and when I’m now editing, we’ve gotten claimed by Justin publicly. At least now we know he’s on the A-team! I added the receipts in the beginning. Resume.
November 30, 2014
They were never together officially as our old posts state (which they confirm when they talk about this time period). Why? Complications. With Justin still being in a PR with his ex, he was always obligated to do certain things. These complications caused a lot of issues. Since they were hooking up, but not official, each party caught feelings. However, Justin was unstable and Hailey kept thinking she got played.
This emotional confusion got Hailey pining for him and living on the “what if” scenario. This got her hooked on him emotionally so she did things with good intention, but it came off too strong. You know when you love someone so much you want to SUFFOCATE them with love and care, but you have to remember that there is a distinct line between a “mother” and a “lover.” This behavior of hers was often cited as “obsessive,” but in a more professional manner, I’d say she was hung up on him.
In Hailey’s defense, she was a shoulder for Justin during his worse days. She was kind of a rehabilitation center for him and when things got complicated with his legal obligations and his career, he wasn’t around. So when he got better and she wasn’t in his life, she was upset because it’s like “oh does he even care about me or did he just use me to moan about his problems?” This is something that Justin said in an interview. He said something like “she would ask our mutual friends if I’m doing okay and she was happy I was but upset that she wasn’t in my life.” This translated to some as “oh Hailey wasn’t happy he was doing good without her,” but it’s far greater than that.
2014
So she fell hard for him but felt stupid since he never made it official. She couldn’t get over him no matter how hard she tried. Hailey even had a fling with Cameron Dallas, but my source literally said that Hailey barely talks about Cameron and he surely isn’t going to be the one to cure her broken heart over Justin. Read more here.
Hailey did try to be at similar outings that he was at and she wanted to be back into his life. Justin knew that he did her dirty so he didn’t want to confront that until he was ready. Therefore they would be at the same events, but they wouldn’t talk. Hailey being in love with him clouded her judgment, and Justin swimming in a pool of guilt clouded his.
New Year’s Eve 2015
In December 2016, our source told us that Justin called up Hailey to make amends and we posted about it. Fun fact, we said this December 6, 2016, after they haven’t been seen together the whole year and then TMZ reported a spotting on December 21. Have we ever failed yall? Nope. So during this time period, they did run into each other a couple of times, but they didn’t go back to their normal friendship yet.
At the end of 2017, Justin got back in touch with his ex because she had a life threatening surgery and she wanted him back. Getting back together with her resulted in Justin going back to his old habits. Since Justin and his ex weren’t exclusive, Justin was in contact with Hailey and his ex was also seeing other guys.
Boom… Jailey reconciles and Justin proposes.
Their dynamic before marriage summary:
Hailey was the young girl that didn’t ever think this older boy who’s the biggest pop star would ever give her the time of the day.
Justin wasn’t used to anyone giving a crap about him and at one point looked at her as this “young girl.”
Suddenly they became a “freshman and senior jock” cliche, but always unofficial. Damaged-boy-loves-cute-girl cliche, ya know, fanfiction.
Complications got in the way and Justin moved on using his unhealthy habits and Hailey was left there pining for him and confused—leading to obsessive tendencies.
Justin always had the upper hand in their relationship during this timeline, but this changes as we will see.
Roles:
Justin—dominate.
Hailey—submissive.
AFTER MARRIAGE
After marriage, a lot of things changed for Justin and Hailey.
Justin comes with a lot of baggage. Hailey does not. What does this mean? Well Justin has endured and went through far greater things that made him traumatized so he carries that trauma with him. When he was in his relationship with his ex, she had that baggage too. Together, they were the drugged up version of Bonnie and Clyde.
Hailey being the younger and less famous star didn’t endure nor go through what he went through. What makes Hailey and Justin work is the fact that they’re not on the same level of…. trauma. Once Justin’s ex gets into a happy and healthy relationship, whoever has to deal with her will have a lot of baggage to work through as well. Two messes don’t clean up the mess. You need someone to help you heal and grow through it and I hope that one day, Justin’s ex can find someone to do the same.
As we described in their dynamic before marriage, Hailey knew all about this trauma and she helped work through it with him which is why he cites her as someone who has helped him tremendously (as we’ve been telling you).
So who do you think needed help in the relationship? Justin. What does this mean? He no longer had the upper hand and it’s actually Hailey who controls everything. To my surprise, my source details exactly what their dynamic is. She said it best so I’m going to quote her and then I’ll discuss it. Our messages will be placed at the end of the post as usual.
Hailey played the submissive [role] but really she runs the marriage. I remember telling you how smart Hailey is and how she was basically the appeaser in the beginning and in the mix when Selena/Justin were still in communication. Justin is like a child, he needs to be nurtured and cared for. Who Justin needs is someone who’s gonna BE THERE.
I know you all think Hailey is this “poor wifey, omg he treats her badly” type of gal. No.. Hailey runs Justin and what she says goes. Why? Justin is like a child. He needs to be told what to do. Hailey being more mature and less traumatized, balances out Justin’s immaturity and his trauma.
If she was just as damaged as he is, the relationship would go nowhere because there would be no healing if both parties are in rock bottom’s basement.
Notice the four words that I bolded in my source’s quote.
Submissive—Hailey was always on Justin’s terms before marriage. Everything revolved around if he’s emotionally available. If his schedule cleared up. If he’s feeling okay. HIM HIM HIM.
Smart—she carries herself very nicely. She is well spoken, kind of educated, and has an open mind. Hailey is always looking to learn more, to find a solution and those qualities interlope with Justin’s messiness very well. If she was a dumb b-tch and Justin was the messy child he is, it’s an equation for disaster.
Appeaser—perfect word. An appeaser is someone who tries to bring peace by agreeing to demands. Ever heard the statement “agree to disagree?” Hailey has the quality where she’s able to put others before her in the eyes of logic. She never wants problems. Sure she’s had her share of shady or petty moments as every other teenage girl had, but that never overshadows her beliefs.
She was always in agreement with Justin.
“I’m emotionally unstable and I’m going on tour.” “I understand.”
“I’m going to check up on my ex because she’s not doing well.” “I understand.”
Child—Justin is a traumatized child. Some people believe that you get stuck at the age you’ve become famous. I don’t think this is necessarily the case for Justin, but I believe he has some very childlike tendencies that he’s tried to work on. A lot of this behavior comes from a psychological perspective so if you don’t understand it, it’s probably out of your realm.
Let’s talk about Justin’s jokes when it comes to Hailey.
Justin has been called out for being “rude” or “disrespectful” when it came to Hailey and quite frankly, almost all times, it’s taken out of context. However, there are some times where he’s just a flat out a—hole and that all goes back to his childlike behavior.
During an Instagram Live sometime in early May, someone asked a question about Justin’s Lyme disease. I tweeted about it on my personal. I’m going to quote what they said, but you can watch it below.
As you can see in the video, Hailey was talking about what Justin endured during his struggle with lyme disease.
Here’s the transcript from the video:
Hailey: we were working alongside doctors leading up to the tour to make sure that you know, he’s doing everything necessary and safe for that …
Justin: facts
Hailey: … you know it definitely sucks that the tour was.. [unclear]
-Justin cuts her off-
Justin: you just answered my [unclear] what she was asking me
Hailey: hmm?
Justin: huh? [mimicking]
-Justin smiles-
-Hailey smiles-
-both start to laugh-
Hailey: anyways…
Justin: [laughing] they were asking me because it’s my lyme disease, it’s not your lyme disease. Is it your lyme disease?
Hailey: no.. but I was help—you know, in every freaking day in the doctor with you for months, so..
Justin: yeah, but they asked if I was scared about the lyme disease cause I’m the one that has it.
Hailey: alright.. but I didn’t say that. I was just saying that you were taking all the necessities.
Justin: listen to me woman
Hailey: yeah that’s the attitude
You know.. um.. so… uh..
You know what I am? Speechless.
The transcript makes it even worse than watching the video. Also, I had to listen to it like 45 times because they were both talking on like volume eight.
I’m going to explain their dynamic in this video but feel free to give your opinions in the comment section below.
If homeboy is gonna be acting like this, it’s quiet. But if homeboy can be acting his age in front of people, he can like… get it.
In Justin’s childish brain, that entire conversation is him joking and he was. He didn’t mean for it to come off that way. He wanted people to react like “LMAOOO HE’S SO FUNNY” because that’s what he aims to be—a jokester.
Justin is a jerk.. a harmless jerk, but a jerk. Hailey understands that behavior. If she didn’t, then that’s a different story, but I’m telling you, she knows.
That video doesn’t prove that he’s a sh-tty husband nor does it tell you anything about their relationship. It addresses their dynamic and that is what my source is talking about in the messages. The funny part was that the messages I received were from February and this is happening in May.
Justin has always had this rude-childish dynamic in him. Back in 2010, he told his tutor “get back in your cage” because she was like okay Justin's time to do schoolwork.
His mom was like “Justin….” and Justin said, “I’m just joking!” This personality of his is seen with so many people and once you understand this, you’ll see his Instagram comments to friends like Shawn Mendes, Kehlani, and etc., the way he sees them. Everyone on Twitter sees them as passive-aggressive or some “secret” hatred, but really it’s literally his way of joking.
In the video, Hailey was caught off guard because in Hailey’s mind it translates to “this doesn’t come off right to people” and it doesn’t. You can see it in the screenshot I put up when she goes like “hm?” I don’t think she was offended per se, but I hope he got his ass handed to him later.
This is where the personal line needs to be drawn. Justin and Hailey want to be open with fans and the general public, but that doesn’t ever mean that you should cross the line from your personal life to public life. Justin pulls crap like this and then he’s like “wow people take things out of context.” And it’s like…. people don’t have the full context, Justin!
I understand that type of joking because in my personal life, whether that’s in relationships or friends, we’ve always joked about “if we said this in front of other people they’d think we are toxic or crazy.” Personally, I have a harsh way of joking and my friend group bonds over that—constantly cutting ass. HOWEVER, and I made this mistake SEVERAL times before, that type of joking is not appropriate everywhere. I couldn’t “turn off” my personality for the longest time and I found myself joking like that in the workplace or with other friend groups and it caused some… issues. People got offended and I was like “I’m just joking…”
This doesn’t mean you’re “fake.” It just means you understand what behavior is appropriate in what setting. I’m not blaming everything on Justin because as a public figure, you don’t understand where the line is. Your personal life is public, so it’s just like where does it end?
Also, Justin and Hailey need to understand something: YOU ARE AN EASY TARGET. People want to see you fail! People aren’t interested in the “good.” They want to see the BAD.
Why? Well it all goes back to how Selena painted both of them in the media—Justin as a toxic cheater and Hailey as a homewrecker who stole her man. Because Justin is such an easy target, it makes it almost pleasurable to turn on him because you’re in agreement with the majority of people, right?
What’s one theme that is consistent with this blog? We don’t take the side of popular bandwagon. Why? Well there is no point in EXPOSING something and UNCOVERING the truth if the truth is already out there with the masses.
So when it comes to Justin and Hailey, people viralize their “bad” moments which are often taken out of context yet they ignore the good so it’s often not seen. This is an ongoing viral cycle.
“Negative” contexts go viral —> their relationship continues getting painted in a negative life —> 90% of their good moments get ignored —> most people don’t see the good —> everyone references the bad.
Keep that ^ in mind when you’re coming at me with 2 inaccurate moments while I have an entire encyclopedia worth of information. People LOVE drama! Hello? I run a whole blog on drama. It’s more scandalous and juicy to say “Justin hates Hailey” or is miserable in his marriage than it is to say “no they are happy together.”
Justin and Hailey are very comfortable with each other and honest with each other. They each help the other’s insecurities. For example, Justin was seen having some sort of anxiety attack in public or he just seemed uneasy, and Hailey calmed him down and they both ended up laughing.
Photos: Backgrid
In 2018, Justin was seen crying with Hailey while they were biking in New York. This was right after they got engaged.
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Hailey then starts to comfort him.
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Photo: Mega
At the end of the day, they were fine and they went and got lunch together.
Photo: Mega
This is what I was talking about when I spoke about “baggage.” A lot of this is emotional for Justin and insecurities within himself because of his past. He later explained to the paparazzi and in his documentary Seasons, marriage is complex and it’s all about the good and the bad.
Also, whenever Justin is seen rubbing his temples, it doesn’t mean that he’s depressed or that he hates Hailey. I’ve seen so many stans on Twitter claim that she makes him “depressed.” Anytime you see him rubbing his temples as you see in the events below, it’s because his doctor taught him that in order to calm down an anxiety or panic attack. It’s called havening which is a therapy that uses “a change agent, a brain delta wave, generated by a simple soothing touch on the palms, upper arms and forehead.”
It’s supposed to help anxiety as well as aiding in curing trauma.
Photo: Mega
Photo: Splash / Mega
And Hailey is just always with him letting him rock and do his thing. I’m pretty sure if Justin hated Hailey… he wouldn’t have proposed. Also, Hailey isn’t “insecure” whenever she sees Justin doing all that because she knows why he is doing it, as it is medical advice.
So stans should probably retire that narrative.
Another thing I want to point out is a TikTok that went viral and which some of you kept using as a receipt in the comment section.
Justin and Hailey were talking about being honest, real, and comfortable with your partner. Someone asked something along the lines of “if you’re not in the mood to be touched by your partner, what do you say?”
Of course the Tiktok ends with the entire conversation practically cut off. The account is run by a crazed Jelena stan so I don’t expect anything other than delusion. But as you can see below, Justin and Hailey are talking about it and Hailey puts her hands around him.
Here’s what actually happened.
Responding to a fan question that was something like: “if you’re not in the mood to be touched by your partner, what do you say?”
Hailey: and it’s just no stress and then you don’t have to think about you know ‘am I on top of this person too much? Is he sick of me?’
Justin: yeah.. just honest [like] ‘babe I can’t, just don’t touch me right now’ like not right now, but I’m just saying
Hailey: [removes her hands a little] oh I thought you were being serious [starts laughing]
Justin: no no no no no, just in general. That just happens sometimes
He literally said “not right now” and they’re talking about in general and yet everyone twisted their words to be spiteful and vile. Do I blame little kids for not understanding? No… but mainly because Justin talks in such a monotone way you can’t even tell when he’s quoting himself or being sarcastic jfc.
Justin and Hailey are trying to be honest and raw with fans about how it’s like to be in an actual relationship and how you can be comfortable around your partner, and the Internet twists it into this sick narrative as if someone put a gun to his head and said: “propose to Hailey.”
You know why people find Jailey so odd? It’s because THEY want to show you their relationship in its full complexity with the GOOD and BAD. Justin strives to be “real” and “authentic” and after being under a million contracts in the first ten years of his career, he doesn’t want to portray a fake act for public approval. Justin can hire a social media manager (me) to make him and Hailey appear like they have perfect lives, but HE DOESN’T WANT THAT. As for Hailey, she is just down with the flow. She’ll do her own thing on social media regardless of what Justin does. At the end of the day, she is her own person.
So it’s little things like that to keep in mind.
Moving onto more dynamic features!
Justin is OBSESSED with Hailey. He’s also very needy and craves attention.
You’d think it’s Hailey, but that was actually her before the marriage. She has all his attention and this dynamic is often seen if you actually look at their relationship without a biased approach.
I haven’t watched their reality show on Facebook (I’ve just seen clips on Twitter), but I’m already so sure of everything I’m saying in this post that I know that watching that, will confirm it even more.
I’m going to talk about something a bit controversial now.
Hailey stopping her life for Justin
Everyone always says that Hailey doesn’t care about her personal life or her career or her friends; the only thing she cares about is Justin.
That’s false, but what’s true is that Justin is her #1 priority just like she is his #1 priority. She does have her own dreams and aspirations, but right now she wants to enjoy her married life and be there for Justin as a wife because that’s what he needs.
Here’s what my source said.
Hailey had dreams of her own but she knew to be his wife, she would have to be there and stand side to Justin. With Justin going through clinical depression, Hailey knows more than ever he needs her and it’s beautiful to see how dedicated she’s becoming.
Keep in mind that Hailey WANTS to be there for Justin. She CHOOSES this. And to be honest, that is what a marriage is all about—compromise.
And that special little word is one of the main reasons why Justin and Selena never worked out and will never work out even in a different lifetime. There was no compromise when it came to Selena, but Justin and Selena were also in the same boat with drugs, depression, anxiety, etc.. Two problems can’t help each other. All they’ll do is worsen the other which is what was seen with Abel and Selena in their work/hooking up relationship as well.
I know Justin’s character very well and I knew when it came to a wife, Selena couldn’t play the part because he needed someone that would drop things and be there to support. Besides them barely being around each other during his peak of his career, Selena disliked the whole demographic of things. I knew he would need someone he trusted and known for years, especially after what he’s been through with his parents.
Remember how earlier in the post I spoke about how Justin came with baggage? Yeah. This also goes for Selena and like I said, if she ever gets into a healthy relationship, whoever it is is going to have to help her through that.
The thing is, Justin isn’t “using” Hailey as a rehabilitation center. He has gotten help and he’s been to therapy. He’s going to a bunch of different doctors to explore his clinical depression and how can live with it. Justin isn’t sitting there with his issues and doing nothing about that nor does he expect Hailey to do everything. He’s doing his part plus having a partner that cares about you and wants you to genuinely get better, is how he will achieve full stability within himself.
Justin and Hailey are not perfect by any means, but they address the bad and they try to fix it. I know the mentality of “well Hailey deserves better” comes to mind and it’s crossed my mind a couple of times too, but just because someone is broken, doesn’t mean we should throw them away. Justin is broken, but he doesn’t sit there wallowing in self pity. He does things to help get better so he can be better for Hailey and that is literally what the song “changes” is all about.
I’m going to talk a little bit about Justin and Selena’s past relationship, but this is your disclaimer: this isn’t meant to say ‘Hailey is better, Selena is the devil’ but this is simply to show how his past with Selena has influenced him now in his future. So much happened with Selena and how HER complications made Justin appreciate stability in his current relationship. I wish the best for Selena to be honest (I haven’t written about her in almost 3 months ugh miss her).
Justin can’t trust Selena after everything she’s put him through. She sold weed pictures of him to TMZ for God’s sake. She turned every single mutual they had AGAINST him. All for what? A sour breakup? Things like that you cannot take back. Those things are permanent.
Plus, Selena enjoyed humiliating Justin in the public eye. During their relationship, she was always seen yelling at him and embarrassing him. It always seemed like she spoke down upon him.
Who can ever forget when they attended a movie premiere together and she was yelling at him the whole night?
“Walk or I’m about to beat yo ass” LMAOOOO I do wonder what she said though. You can see the disrespect in her eyes.
My personal favorite might have to be the time Justin and Selena had a huge public fight after their November 2012 breakup and then they left dinner together and I guess something happened, but basically Selena wouldn’t let Justin into her house. So he just stayed outside waiting for her to let him in.
I think that’s her flipping him off LMAO…. God, weird and toxic… weird and toxic.
What does this have to do with Jailey? Well with that being Justin’s past experience, he controlled himself to act a certain way. Basically to walk on eggshells because if he said the ‘wrong’ thing in the moment, Selena could cause a scene. What does this mean? He’s the complete opposite with Hailey.
Whenever you see Justin and Hailey being all cuddly and touchy with each other in public, remember how Justin wasn’t exactly allowed to do all that unless Selena instructed him to do so. It was a weird relationship with many rules and complications that also led to emotional complications.
Hailey never betrayed Justin. There’s a difference between shading someone and betraying them. You trying to tell me after everything Selena did in the media for SEVEN YEARS, you think they can possibly ever go back? Do you guys even know when an adult relationship is like? What marriage is like?
Justin and Selena are too damaged to ever help each other. That toxicity between them runs in their veins. Their emotional connection, no matter how strong, could be fatal for both of them. Literally the toxic and drugged up version of Romeo and Juliet (who aren’t goals by the way).
And guess what? HAILEY KNOWS THAT so she isn’t insecure in her marriage NOW. She used to be insecure about it because that is what marriage with someone like Justin is. You can’t help, but be on edge. However, Justin has taken extreme measures to provide for her emotionally.
I can update on Selena and say his mind isn’t on her… at all. He is too focused on building this unity with Hailey. Hailey is very good for him because she is bringing that intellect and rationality in his life that he deeply longed for and needed. Religion is the glue in their relationship.
Justin tasted what a healthy relationship is like and he can’t let go of it. With Hailey, he’s able to talk about his feelings. He’s able to be like “I’m upset you did this.” He’s able to say “I’m not in the mood for this.” He’s able to be FREE. He’s not scared of speaking up. This is something that you can see in the video where everyone claimed he didn’t want Hailey touching him, but really they were talking about how to be honest with your partner about how you’re feeling.
With Selena, Justin would conform for YEARS just so he wouldn’t hear her mouth. He’ll be unhappy, but he loves her, so he’ll silence himself. FOR YEARS. YEARS!!!!
Never forget when he came to visit her on the set of her movie and instead he got lectured all day…
I mean can we talk about the meaning behind Justin's lyrics for “What Do You Mean?” That song literally proved everything we said about her constantly changing his mind about him and leaving him then coming back, yadda yadda yadda.
On Genius’ official lyric interpretations, they said that Selena had a rule for Justin to follow and that meant: NO FEMALE FRIENDS! I mean if you read ESMG before the song came out in 2015, you already knew that.
That healthy to anyone? And by the way, Justin has writing credits on the song.
This is probably why he can’t speak up now about her. It’s probably this psychological thing where he just can’t because for years he wasn’t allowed to. With Selena, there were rules. With Hailey, there is a real relationship—good and bad. You’re not walking on eggshells in your own relationship.
I mean Justin said it best in 2015 for his Complex Interview.
To be honest, Justin was probably talking about Hailey in that interview when he said “I’m kind of seeing this girl.”
Again, this isn’t a comparison between relationships but it must be said because Justin is highly different NOW than he ever was before because the-Justin before his journey on self-reflecting and healing, was “polished.” Of course, he had to seem perfect with Selena. They were under a contract for 80% of their “relationship” so obviously it’s going to seem polished. And for the times where the contract wasn’t intact, the slapping and verbal abuse on national television and social media surely were.
This is why Justin jokes so freely with Hailey, no matter how insensitive it comes off to those who are merely fans looking in through this small window in which they have given them access. He can be his whole self with Hailey so if you ain’t liking him now, then you never liked the “real” him. Just the polished version of his publicists.
Another important thing about Hailey is that she’s NOT insecure about his career. With Selena, she wanted to be just as big, if not even BIGGER than him. Hailey doesn’t give a crap. Sure she’ll reap in the Bieber benefits that come with the last name, but that’s not constantly on her mind.
Justin’s fans aka Beliebers
Justin with fans at his Seasons premiere / Photo: Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images
With that being said, Hailey craves for Justin to be adored because she adores him so much. What does that mean for Beliebers? it means she actually likes Justin’s fans.
Hailey loves his fans. There will be times where Hailey will tell Justin, even when his mental state is at array, “You have to do this for the beliebers.” The wedding showing on the Seasons was her idea.
That is just… that is literally PURE. So Hailey was the reason they showcased the wedding on the show. Maybe we should thank her for the content.
If anyone has followed up with Justin at the beginning of his career, you know that he had an extremely emotional connection with his fans. I have people that can vouch for this behavior when it comes to his fans. The only time that changed was when everything came tumbling down on him emotionally and he felt like people only wanted something from him, rather than wanted to know him.
Justin craves GENUINE human connection.
Justin is slowly starting to build that connection with his fans and you can see this by the amount of time he spent in quarantine just going on IG Live with several fans in one day. He craves normalcy from fans. That’s why he’s always preaching about “talk to me, don’t just take a picture.” There have been countless occasions where Justin was hanging out with a small group of fans in a lowkey area.
When it came to Selena… sis did not like Beliebers. Her insecurity never allowed her to. To her, these fans were “other girls.” In Justin’s Complex interview he was talking about how on tour, there are all these beautiful girls and “you’re just getting yourself in trouble” and everyone interpreted that as “he admitted to cheating on Selena.” However, the only thing he admitted was that he wasn’t allowed to be around other girls whether they were coworkers or fans. Either way, he was getting in “trouble” (in the same interview he talks about how you ‘can’t’ cheat on a girlfriend and did some religious analogy so…. I think it’s fair to say he didn’t admit to cheating there).
I mean when Justin had to shoot “Boyfriend” back in 2012 and he had to be all touchy with a girl, Selena was on set all day and made Justin cradle her every second they weren’t shooting.
Or when she was taking shots at the girl in the “All That Matters” video in 2013 (as they were SINGLE) and the girl said, “I was just doing my job….”
Fan or not, coworker or not, If you are a girl, you were not allowed to be near Justin. That was Selena’s personal preference and he did what he could to accommodate that.
Back to Beliebers.
There is video proof of Selena about to hand Justin his ass on a platter for stopping to pose with fans. Yet there is video proof of Justin being all touchy with fans and Hailey is looking at them while smiling.
Take a look at this:
Selena looks like she’d rather be ANYWHERE else than in a time and place where Justin has the AUDACITY to take 3 seconds of his time to pose with the people that made his status possible. She’s standing there with her head frozen UP TO THE SKY as if she’s about to unleash some hidden horror on all of us. If you see the full video, it’s even worse. She sees him stop for the fans and rolls her eyes, then as you can see she stands there, and then she storms off.
Moshe, the bodyguard there, who hated both Justin and Selena LMAO, probably like “oh god now I have to hear a 4-hour fight about nothing.”
Then you have Hailey… Justin stopped and talked with fans who were asking him about KPOP and even though they practically ignored Hailey the whole time, she’s just standing there smiling at both Justin and the fans, with love.
You can’t make this up.
Whenever Justin was with Selena, Beliebers were prepared for a rude encounter. I’m telling you, I have documented WAY TOO MANY moments of these. I know what I’m talking about if you wanna take a stroll down memory lane in my master post, you’ll know more too.
Justin would be rude to Beliebers whenever Selena was around because in his minuscule mind, it was like him saying “look, I hate these annoying screaming girls that you don’t like. I love you and only you” and yeah... that’s literally how it was.
After all, one of our good ole friends, Selenaexposed, said that Selena’s weird hatred and jealousy of Beliebers, was something that she carried with her in her relationship with Justin.
The friend that is referencing the ‘giving up his career’ part for her, is all in Justin’s song “She Don’t Like The Lights.” He really thought that Selena didn’t like FAME in general, but sis really hated HIS FAME. She wanted everything he had. She wanted to be #1 and so she used him and their drama as much as she could, to get there.
I’m telling you, it’s a game with Selena. And it came at the price of Justin’s fans.
Now that he has Hailey who isn’t going to engage in a screaming match if he wants to talk to fans, everything is all better. This allows him to be confident in his work and engage in regular friendships with other girls knowing that Hailey isn’t going to retaliate at a normal thing. No one is saying he should go befriend and become besties with random girls, but you know… it’s nice to know that your partner isn’t going to have your head if you do.
Overall, this strengthens trust between Justin and Hailey and Justin appreciates it way more than an average dude would because he reflects on the times where he COULDN’T (that’s the only reason why I’m bringing up comparisons).
Justin and Hailey’s Scandalous Past
Now y’all are gonna be mad at me, but I’m not going to expose this. All I’m going to tell you is that they both had a scandalous past (Justin’s past being more scandalous than we thought) and Hailey not being as vanilla as we thought. It’s not bad, it’s just juicy tea. This part of the messages will be blurred out at the end.
Now my friend was telling me that the reason both Hailey and Justin have felt the need to give up their pasts to really commit and grow with each other. When the two were looking for something permanent, the whole kids and a family ordeal, they left [everything] in the past. They knew as a new chapter in life, they have to be faith to one another. Friends say that they don’t think that Justin has put that all to bed mentally; physically, yes he’s dedicated to his wife but he’s still working out being honest with who he is and embracing that.
My source literally ended the message with: this is all wild if you have any questions you can ask me. Meanwhile, this is me:
In an effort to not expose the entire story (a good exposer never reveals all), let’s just say that for the sake of this post, they left the hoe life behind. They are only faithful to each other. They already tasted the scandalous single life and nobody put a gun to their heads and said: get married. They chose to be married. They choose to work on their problems. They chose this.
As for Justin who carries more baggage than Hailey, he’s always working on being better. And same with Hailey. No one said she was perfect.
My source says that Justin and Hailey have:
taken this leap of faith where they really love each other, want kids, and it works for them. It’s what they both want and need.
Another thing you have to know is that Justin is really in touch with himself and who he really is as a person, now. He’s in touch with his emotional side, sexuality, everything. He used to look for his “purpose,” but now he’s not only found that, but he found himself.
Backgrid
Justin has always craved to be a family man. Hailey had a taste of the single life like Justin has, but they both want the same things. This is why you guys think they are “boring” because they don’t go out partying or clubbing every night. To unintelligent stans, this reads as “they have no friends and they don’t even like each other" but the reality is… they already experienced it all.
Hollywood is all about drugs, partying, and sleeping around. That ain’t nothing special. But what is special? A marriage that you can actually WORK your problems in rather than conceal them in an effort to be perfect. Not everyone has that… that’s more exclusive than whatever coke special is being served at the club.
Successful marriages are about compromise. It’s about wanting the same thing. Hailey didn’t have that with any relationship she had before and Justin sure as hell learned the hard way that he didn’t have that. When they both found their middle ground, they committed to each other and did so in the name of God.
They don’t sit there and pretend everything is perfect. They acknowledge what needs to be worked on and the sad part is that they try to share this hard part of relationships with the public, but everyone is interested in villainizing them instead. And y’all will not bully me into conforming to your weird beliefs! I stick by my word because the truth always reveals itself.
Are they a PR?
Please.. for the love of God.. if you ask me this question, just do yourself a favor and exit. Exit out right now. Have I thought you NOTHING? Go read my posts on Jelena’s PR or Shawmila’s PR or Abelena’s PR and then come back and dare to ask the same question.
Justin and Hailey’s relationship was never under any circumstance, an ounce of a PR. If they were, the information that they put out would be a lot more controlled so they can appear to be “perfect.”
You wanna know what’s a perfectly controlled PR? Shawn and Camila. Abel and Selena. Every narrative that was put out there (by their teams) was beautifully crafted to fill the minds of stans of what “couple goals” really are.
Using the benefits you have to maximize yourself isn’t a PR. What this means is, yes when Hailey adopted the “Bieber” name, she became at least 5x more famous than she was before. I mean, duh? Justin touched Selena’s career and suddenly she was more than “that Disney chic with the wand, that can’t sing.”
Justin is on a level of stardom that his peers aren’t on. Anyone associated with him is able to garner massive amounts of fame. This type of fame is seen with the likes of Taylor Swift for example.
Therefore, Hailey is going to have a lot of business endeavors that she could market very well. I heard something about “Bieber Beauty” or something else about skincare because Hailey is really passionate about skincare. Using the benefits that come with your name does not mean that you’re in a PR nor are you using the person.
That’s just delusion speaking.
Justin and Hailey are now a package deal and Hollywood LOVES to market cute and young married couples. Them posing together for Calvin Klein was a huge deal and the brand actually saw a surge in engagement after they were featured.
Calvin Klein
His new marriage was also the center of his recent era, Changes. It’s something new and people want this.
I urge you not to use the term “PR” if you actually don’t know what that means. Just because you hate the relationship your fave is in, doesn’t mean it’s a “PR.”
Anyways let’s close this off.
Summary of Justin and Hailey’s dynamic after marriage:
There is a lot more stability here and with them being in a marriage, it means that there is accountability to be taken up.
Before, Justin and Hailey wouldn’t fix their issues. They’d just leave (well Justin would lol), but now, there is no running away from problems.
Thier relationship is put in a different light. They battle “real” things now instead of “omg he was hanging out with who?” They battle things like dealing with anxiety, depression, societal pressures, LYME DISEASE. Their battles aren’t just Justin absorbing all of Hailey’s energy, but rather helping her too.
Hailey is more secure in her relationship because of the stability that comes with it.
They no longer go out clubbing to fill their empty voids with dancing and alcohol, but rather spending time in solitude such as going camping, and seeing how they can better each other.
They remind me of me and my friends LMAOOOO. Honestly, I think The Biebers and I would get along very well. I could teach them a thing or two.
Roles:
Justin—submissive.
Hailey—dominate.
This concludes this long awaited post! I hope I was able to explain everything and clarify this interesting relationship. I hope you read with an open mind and learned a little bit about the complicated history of Justin and Hailey Bieber.
Here are the messages between my source and I!
THE END
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